Where Two Worlds Meet with Gordon Smith | The Wisdom of Jacob’s Ladder EP80
UK's most accurate medium Gordon Smith joins Jacob Cooper to explore grief, memory, and the spirit world, sharing profound personal stories and teaching listeners how to become their own medium by turning inward toward the divine spark within.
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In this episode of The Wisdom of Jacob's Ladder, Jacob Cooper sits down with renowned UK medium and author Gordon Smith to explore the nature of mediumship, grief, and the connection between the living and the spirit world. Gordon shares deeply personal stories from his life, including his first encounter with spirit as a child and profound reading experiences from his years as a hairdresser, illustrating how ordinary moments can become extraordinary doorways to healing.
The conversation dives into the difference between the brain and the mind, how memories are living imprints rather than fading files, and why grief is not something to erase but to move through with love and understanding. Gordon offers a compassionate framework for understanding death, explaining that the spirit world is free of emotion yet deeply attuned to helping loved ones heal.
Throughout the discussion, Gordon weaves in teachings from Tibetan Buddhism, including the elemental nature of emotions and the idea of life as a journey of karmic refinement, likening the soul to an uncut diamond shaped by life's hardships. He closes with an empowering message: everyone has the capacity to become their own medium by turning inward and connecting to the spark of the Divine within.
Key takeaways
- Mediumship is not about the medium being special, but about becoming a clear channel for healing messages from spirit.
- Memories are described as 'living' rather than static brain files, which is why profound spiritual experiences like NDEs remain vivid over time.
- Grief is a natural and healthy reaction to love and should be allowed to move through a person rather than be suppressed or taken away.
- The spirit world exists free of human emotion, but spirits actively try to help loved ones process grief and heal.
- Elemental energies (earth, water, fire, air) are tied to human emotions and can offer tools for grounding and emotional balance.
- True spiritual growth comes from letting go of attachment to materialism and recognizing that life is lived with 'borrowed' things.
- Everyone has access to their own inner 'medium' or divine spark and can use small acts of kindness to improve collective consciousness.
Highlights
- 7:14 — Gordon describes his first childhood encounter with a deceased spirit
- 9:47 — The emotional lollipop reading story while shaving a client
- 17:04 — Why spiritual memories are stored in the mind, not just the brain
- 22:16 — Grief as 'the price we pay for love' and reframing loss
- 30:56 — Explaining the elements and how emotions connect to earth, water, fire, and air
- 47:19 — Why this world is seen as a 'hell realm' for growth, not heaven
- 58:05 — The soul as an uncut diamond shaped through suffering
- 1:00:35 — Gordon's closing message: 'Become your own medium'
00:00:00 Introduction to Gordon Smith
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00:39:31 Different Mediums, Different Messages
00:47:19 This World as a Hell Realm
00:51:03 Can Heaven Exist on Earth
00:58:05 The Soul as an Uncut Diamond
01:00:35 Become Your Own MediumWEBVTT
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Angie Li
Hi! I'm a writer & researcher obsessed with spiritually transformative experiences! I share the best resources on NDE's, psychic mediumship, past life memories & afterlife evidence for beginners, believers & the curious but not yet convinced.
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Gordon Smith is a Scottish medium, spiritual teacher, and author of numerous books on mediumship. He travels internationally to deliver public demonstrations and educational workshops.
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