> ## Content Index > Fetch the complete content index at: https://famouspsychicmediums.com/llms.txt > Use this file to discover other available public pages before exploring further. # John Edward: From Crossing Over to Chasing Evil & the Love That Never Leaves Us - URL: https://famouspsychicmediums.com/episodes/john-edward-from-crossing-over-to-chasing-evil-the-love-that-never-leaves-us/ - Published: 2026-10-22T23:53:30.000Z - Updated: 2026-10-27T15:48:32.000Z - Description: Psychic medium John Edward joins Michael Fishman to discuss grief, intuition, his FBI collaboration in Chasing Evil, and why the love we carry endures long after loss. - Author: John Edwards - Tags: Famous Mediums, Science World-renowned psychic medium and author John Edward joins Michael Fishman for an open conversation on grief, healing, intuition, and love. Reflecting on over four decades of mediumship, John shares how early personal experiences led him to explore parapsychology and reframe intuitive ability as a muscle everyone can develop. John unpacks the origin behind his iconic Crossing Over sign-off, inspired by comedian Joan Rivers, and shares his perspective on grief by framing love and loss as two sides of the same pillow. He also takes listeners behind the scenes of his book Chasing Evil, detailing his secret 25-year collaboration with an FBI agent, and discusses his online community Evolve+, designed to empower individuals through astrology, tarot, and spiritual growth. Throughout the episode, Michael and John explore fatherhood, the pressure of pioneering a television genre, and the necessity of unity in modern times. John emphasizes that love transcends physical departure and encourages listeners to stay open to learning life's lessons with hope, grace, and humanity. ### Key takeaways - Grief and love are two sides of the same pillow, where physical departure inverts connection into grief until we process it back into love. - Intuitive ability functions like a muscle that anyone can develop rather than an exclusive gift reserved for a few. - Mediumship relies on subtle energetic impressions processed similarly to psychic charades or sign language. - Striving for accuracy and fostering direct personal connection is far more meaningful than creating dependency on readings. - Collaborating on Chasing Evil provided FBI criminal investigations with unique energetic insights to complement objective evidence. - Spiritual growth requires unity, open communication, and taking ownership of life's lessons. ### Highlights - 1:09 — Joan Rivers Inspires the Famous Crossing Over Farewell Message - 5:58 — The Two-Sided Heart Pillow Analogy for Love and Grief - 15:35 — Reframing Psychic Ability as an Everyday Muscle - 27:08 — How Energetic Symbols Function Like Psychic Sign Language - 35:49 — How an FBI Agent Tried to Debunk John Edward Before Collaborating - 41:53 — The Difference Between Being Right and Striving for Accuracy - 55:41 — Creating Evolve Plus for Metaphysical Community and Exploration ```chapters 00:00:00 Welcome to A Lighthouse in the Dark 00:01:01 Origin of the Famous TV Sign Off 00:05:20 The Heart Pillow Analogy for Grief 00:07:26 Processing Grief Beyond the Concept of Closure 00:14:30 Reframing Mediumship as an Ability 00:18:38 Childhood Experiences and Early Intuitive Signals 00:27:05 Interpreting Psychic Symbols Like Sign Language 00:35:31 Secretly Collaborating with the FBI for Chasing Evil 00:41:40 Striving for Accuracy Over Being Right 00:51:24 Parenting and Teaching Energetic Awareness 00:55:23 Building the Evolve Plus Metaphysical Community 01:02:11 Reflections on Pioneering a Television Genre 01:12:00 Preserving Hope and Humanity in Difficult Times ``` ```vtt WEBVTT 00:00:00.654 --> 00:00:05.239 [music] 00:00:05.239 --> 00:00:08.600 [music] 00:00:08.600 --> 00:00:16.680 <00:00:08.948> Welcome<00:00:09.296> back<00:00:09.643> to<00:00:09.991> A<00:00:10.339> Lighthouse<00:00:10.687> in<00:00:11.035> the<00:00:11.383> Dark.<00:00:11.730> Today,<00:00:12.078> we<00:00:12.426> have<00:00:12.774> a<00:00:13.122> special<00:00:13.470> guest,<00:00:13.817> a<00:00:14.165> world-renowned<00:00:14.513> psychic<00:00:14.861> medium<00:00:15.209> and<00:00:15.557> author,<00:00:15.904> someone<00:00:16.252> who<00:00:16.600> I 00:00:16.680 --> 00:00:19.600 admire<00:00:17.080> tremendously.<00:00:18.240> Welcome,<00:00:18.880> John<00:00:19.080> Edward. 00:00:19.600 --> 00:00:27.120 <00:00:19.834> Thank<00:00:20.069> you.<00:00:20.303> Thank<00:00:20.538> you<00:00:20.772> for<00:00:21.007> having<00:00:21.241> me.<00:00:21.476> <00:00:21.710> 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